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Breaking the Cycle: Social Venture Partners’ Bold Plan to End Generational Poverty

Episode Highlights

  • 🎯 SVP Tucson’s Mission-Centered Shift
    Anne Miskey and Jennie Grabel detail SVP Tucson’s evolution from nonprofit capacity-building to a laser-focused mission: ending intergenerational poverty through systems change and community alignment.

    👨‍👩‍👧 The Two-Generation Approach
    Learn how SVP Tucson supports whole families by integrating services for parents and children—recognizing that true progress means uplifting both current and future generations together.

    🤝 Introducing the Community Coalition for Prosperity
    Discover how SVP is convening nonprofits, local government, businesses, and the arts in a collaborative effort to align efforts, pool resources, and scale impact across Pima County.

    đź’ˇ Innovation Fund in Action
    Explore how SVP’s Innovation Fund is transforming Tucson’s nonprofit landscape by incentivizing cross-agency collaboration and sparking high-impact, community-designed solutions.

    📜 Policy-Driven Progress
    Hear how SVP Tucson helped shape the Prosperity Initiative policy bundle with the City of Tucson and Pima County, pushing forward evidence-based strategies to support workforce development, early education, and healthcare access.

    đź’¬ Centering Lived Experience
    SVP’s commitment to listening directly to families experiencing poverty ensures that strategies are responsive, human-centered, and rooted in real community need—not assumption.

Episode Description

In this powerful episode of Life Along The Streetcar, we welcome Anne Miskey and Jennie Grabel of Social Venture Partners Tucson into the studio to explore one of the most pressing challenges facing our community, intergenerational poverty. But this is no ordinary conversation about social issues. Anne and Jennie bring a clear-eyed vision and a roadmap for change that is already reshaping the way Tucson tackles equity, access, and opportunity.

Whether you’re a lifelong Tucsonan or new to the city, this is a conversation that reveals the heart of a community that cares deeply and acts boldly. Keep reading to discover how SVP Tucson is turning empathy into infrastructure and transforming collaboration into lasting change.


đź’ˇ Ending Intergenerational Poverty in Tucson with Strategic, Community-Led Solutions

SVP Tucson isn’t just dreaming big, they are executing a strategy with purpose. At the center of their mission is a laser-focused goal: to end intergenerational poverty in Southern Arizona. Unlike many efforts that target the symptoms of poverty (food insecurity, housing instability, or employment struggles), SVP is going upstream. They are working to change the systems that trap families in cycles of disadvantage.

Anne Miskey, who recently stepped into the role of CEO after a long career in both corporate and nonprofit leadership, brings a fresh but deeply informed perspective. She sees Tucson as a place rich in compassion, where collaboration is already part of the culture. This community spirit, paired with a structured, data-informed approach, is what gives SVP their edge.

Their two-generation (2Gen) model is a key part of the strategy. Rather than offering fragmented services, SVP Tucson focuses on supporting both parents and children simultaneously. This means connecting education, job training, child care, health access, and housing under one umbrella, all working toward breaking the cycle for the whole family.

“We’re not seeing any community change… how do we take on a bigger approach that will help us move the needle in a meaningful way?” — Jennie Grabel

By recognizing poverty as a systems issue, SVP Tucson is moving the conversation from charity to community transformation.


🤝 The Power of Collaboration: Building Tucson’s Coalition for Prosperity

SVP Tucson is not acting alone. In fact, they would say their biggest strength is knowing how to build alliances that matter. At the core of this effort is the Community Coalition for Prosperity (CCP). The CCP is a groundbreaking multi-sector partnership that brings together nonprofits, city and county officials, businesses, philanthropists, artists, educators, and faith leaders. It is Tucson’s most ambitious poverty-fighting coalition to date.

The goal of the CCP is to create alignment among key community sectors around a shared framework of upstream interventions. These include evidence-based policies supporting early childhood education, workforce development, and healthcare access. It’s about bringing every corner of the community to the same table, recognizing that no single group can solve poverty alone.

Jennie Grabel, who originally helped launch SVP’s popular Fast Pitch program, returned to the organization to help launch the CCP. Her background in collaborative impact and social innovation made her the ideal leader for this bold new phase.

“We’re all about the reality that change happens at the speed of trust.” — Jennie Grabel

This trust-building is what makes the CCP different. It’s about lifting up the incredible work already happening in Tucson and ensuring that everyone has a seat at the table.


🚀 Innovation in Action: How SVP’s Innovation Fund is Driving Nonprofit Collaboration in Tucson

Tucson’s nonprofit community is rich in passion and purpose, but for too long, many organizations have operated in silos. Social Venture Partners recognized this challenge and responded with a simple but powerful solution: create the conditions for collaboration to flourish. The result? The SVP Innovation Fund.

This fund provides both the financial support and the structural guidance needed for multiple nonprofits to team up on high-impact projects. By reducing duplication, increasing efficiency, and encouraging bold experimentation, the Innovation Fund is helping nonprofits scale their reach and deepen their results.

Anne and Jennie highlighted how the Innovation Fund invests in relationships. These partnerships often lead to new approaches, shared resources, and sustainable solutions that would not have emerged otherwise.

“When you give people the resources to work together, it truly is deep impact kind of work.” — Anne Miskey

This fund represents a new kind of philanthropy, one that values long-term outcomes over short-term optics. It is already reshaping the landscape of nonprofit work in Southern Arizona and is a model that other cities are starting to notice.


📣 Be Part of the Movement: Connect with Social Venture Partners Tucson

Tucson is at a turning point. With visionary leadership, community-wide collaboration, and a deep commitment to equity, Social Venture Partners Tucson is inviting all of us to help build a future where every child has a path out of poverty and into possibility.

Whether you are a nonprofit, a business leader, a policymaker, or simply a neighbor who cares, SVP wants you involved. They are seeking partners, volunteers, and community champions who believe in a more equitable, prosperous Tucson.

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Transcript (Unedited)

Tom Heath
Good morning. It’s a bit of sun in the old pueblo. And you’re listening to Katy Tucson. Thank you for spending a part of your brunch hour with us on your downtown Tucson community. Sponsored, all volunteer powered rock n roll radio station. This week our guests are. And Miss Key and Jennie Graybill of Social Venture Partners in Tucson. We’re going to dive into their mission and explore the bold, community driven goal of ending intergenerational poverty.

Tom Heath
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Tom Heath
Well, we have a great interview today. Not that we don’t have one every week, but, we’ve got two guests and Mirsky and Jennie Grabel from Social Venture Partners. So the interview is a little bit longer than normal. We’re going to kind of skip with some of the formalities and jump into it a little sooner here. But I just want to give you a little background.

Tom Heath
We’ve talked about social venture partners in the past. We’ve had Brittany Batalon, who she heads up, a competition, a past pitch competition, that they do, trying to, encourage, nonprofits to get out there and spread the word and, and then maybe win some, some fabulous prizes. And, and they get some, some key elements for their, for their, nonprofit goals.

Tom Heath
And that competition happens, but the social venture partners does a lot more than that. So we reached out and we got the, the new CEO and came in, and, Jennie Grabow, who I’ve worked with in different capacities in the community, for, for a while. And, they’re just fascinating people with a really clear driven and goal of energy, of ending intergenerational poverty.

Tom Heath
It’s a lofty goal, and they’ve got kind of a laser focus on this. So we spent a good chunk of the time, chatting about that and the history of social venture partners. So let’s just jump into the interview with, and Minsky and Jennie Graybill of Social Venture Partners here in Tucson. So, ready?

Jennie Grabel
Ready.

Tom Heath
That was in stereo. That’s fabulous.

Anne Miskey
So we work together.

Jennie Grabel
We’re easy. Yes.

Tom Heath
But we, welcome in here to the studio. We got a duo combo here today. We have. And Minsky and Jennie Grabel with Social Venture Partners. I’m going to talk a little bit about the organization and some of the new initiatives that you’re undertaking, because apparently you weren’t busy enough.

Anne Miskey
That’s right. We wanted to do more.

Tom Heath
Well, first of all, let’s we’ve had, Brittany, on talking about the, the fast pitch competition, a little bit about social venture partners, but if we could just start briefly on, on kind of the background of the organization and maybe, you know, and how you came to be here.

Anne Miskey
Sure. So Social Venture Partners has been in existence almost 20 years here in Tucson. It’s a worldwide movement. And it was really created to help people who had some means, expertise to really make an impact in the community. So we bring in what we call partners. People who want to support the local community, and we connect them with good, works in the community with our nonprofit, partners in the community and around issues that affect people living here in Tucson and in Pima County.

Anne Miskey
Our focus, SVP Tucson is really on ending intergenerational poverty. We decided we’d take on kind of a small thing to do with.

Tom Heath
Just just something minor.

Anne Miskey
That’s right. But, you know, I’ve only been in Tucson now about six months. I have a long background in working in the nonprofit profit as well as the corporate worlds. And what I’ve seen since I’ve been in Tucson is a community that really cares, but more importantly, really understands the importance of working together and collaborating with one another.

Anne Miskey
I’ve learned very quickly that everybody knows everybody in Tucson.

Tom Heath
It is very much zero degrees of separation.

Anne Miskey
It really is. So it’s really exciting now for us to be launching a new initiative that really is about community collaboration and not just the not for profit world, but really collaborating with our business sector, faith, arts, all the various sectors to say, how do we build a community that is prosperous and has opportunity for all people in our community?

Tom Heath
And I know it can be a bulk of what we chat about today. But Jennie, you’ve been involved with the community and different organizations for some time. Yeah. And it kind of you reminded me we go back to the Covid days working on a, on a project to help small businesses back when you’re at CIC.

Jennie Grabel
Yeah. Community Investment corporation. Yeah. I’ve worked in the social sector for many, many years, and this is actually my second time, my second iteration with SVP Tucson. Okay. Really focusing on broadening our reach and deepening the impact that we have. Previously I brought Fast Pitch to Tucson, so I was the original program manager.

Tom Heath
For.

Jennie Grabel
Brittany now leads. But I came back to really focus on collaboration and how we bring the community together and align the community around this issue of intergenerational poverty. And how are we really moving the needle and helping families, get the resources that they need, give back to our community, give back to us so that we can all prosper and really create a community that’s driven by equity and everyone having opportunity to live their dreams.

Tom Heath
I would imagine it’s it’s hard to narrow down a focus, but also given what you said earlier, that so many people in Tucson are willing to support and give, we have a really broad list of, of of things that are underway, and you can easily get diluted in trying to support all of them.

Jennie Grabel
That is.

Anne Miskey
True. And I think traditionally, communities and individuals have supported specific causes or specific agencies, all which is good. But what we’ve seen is that those things generally tend to be what we called downstream. So the symptoms right, helping people while they’re dealing with poverty or some disability or whatever it might be, what we tend not to do as communities is go upstream and go, how do we actually really deal with poverty?

Anne Miskey
Not on a person by person basis, but looking at the systems that both create poverty for people or that keep them in poverty. You know, we think of this country as the land of opportunity, but that’s only opportunity if you’re already starting from a place where you, you know, you’ve had a good education or you have a strong family or all of those things.

Anne Miskey
And we know a lot of people don’t have those things. So we’re really going in a much deeper dive to say, how do we as a community, create an environment and opportunity that really ends poverty for families, that we’re not doing this intergenerational piece. The family may be struggling now, but we’re working it so that when that child grows up, they actually can get a good education or a good job and do well for themselves.

Tom Heath
It has just been the focus since 2026 or 2006 when you started or it was. This evolved over the years.

Anne Miskey
This is really an evolution for us. At the beginning we focused more on sort of helping the individual who wanted to do good things in the community, really connect them with their nonprofits and help build individual nonprofits. Again, great work, necessary work. But then a few years ago, and Jennie can speak more to this, we started a project called a two Gen approach.

Anne Miskey
Again, multi-generational approach. And I’m going to actually throw it over to Jennie to talk a little bit about that, because that’s really how we ended up where we are now.

Tom Heath
First of all, I want to, acknowledge the radio speak as she threw it over to Jennie.

Anne Miskey
Yesterday.

Jennie Grabel
Yeah. So in about in in 2020 and 2021, sort of as, as we were all, you know, going through Covid.

Tom Heath
And.

Jennie Grabel
Pivoting, we were all trying to figure out, you know what, what does the next iteration of life look like? SP Tucson had already done a deep dive and recognized we’ve been doing all this incredible work with individual nonprofits, but we’re not seeing any community change. We’re not seeing big picture change around families moving out of poverty. Not to say that that work isn’t incredibly important, as Hans mentioned, but how do we as an organization, in this unique position that we sit in, how do we really take on a bigger approach that will help us move the needle in a meaningful way?

Jennie Grabel
So our work led us to the two generation approach, which is multifamily, which is multi-generational. Two gen is the term that’s used. It was founded through ascend at the Aspen Institute. It’s really looking at how do we assure that if we’re supporting a parent to get in a higher wage career or a higher education so that they can, how are we making sure that their kiddo has high quality education as well?

Jennie Grabel
How are we ensuring that we’re bridging generations and we’re helping move a generation like multi, multiple generations out of poverty and not just focusing on the individual because we know we’re all part of the family system. You talked about wanting to share. You know familial stories is one of the things that’s your passion Tom. We all come from this space of being deeply tied to our family system.

Jennie Grabel
So when were you talking about moving folks out of poverty? You want to recognize that you’re tied to a family system. And how are we looking at this through a multigenerational lens?

Tom Heath
We’ll be back with and Miss and Jennie Gray, both social venture partners here in Tucson. In just a moment, we’ll finish up this conversation we’re having about the the challenges of intergenerational poverty and their efforts to eliminate this and what they’re the steps they are taking. But first, I want to remind you that you’re listening to life along the streetcar on Downtown Radio 99.1 FM and streaming on Downtown radio.org.

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Tom Heath
Welcome back. If you’re just joining us halfway through the show here, our guests are and Miss Key and Jennie Grabel. There were social venture partners in Tucson. And we’ve been talking about their mission and a, some advocacy work that they are doing. We’re going to really dive into that as they are working with their partners on ways that they can impact their goal of and ending intergenerational poverty.

Tom Heath
So we’re going to jump back into the second part of this. We were just with, Jennie kind of talking about how the family dynamic plays into, all of these interactions that we have and so many different levels are in live. So we’re going to kind of we’re in the middle of that conversation. We’re going to pick it back up.

Jennie Grabel
So we began down that path to really educate ourselves on the two generation approach. We’ve worked with and built a two gen collaboration of eight nonprofit organizations that are really hyper focused on how do we provide, services across generations. So to the elders in the family, as well as the working parents, as well as to the little ones, whether it’s early childhood education or, you know, K through 12 supports.

Jennie Grabel
So we’ve been working on that approach and really exploring what it looks like to collaborate community wide with that approach. And that led us to some work, some policy work with the city and the county around this big policy bundle that was passed recently in late 2023, early 2020 for both the city of Tucson and Pima County, passed a policy bundle that’s called the Prosperity Initiative that is looking at, as Anne was talking about these upstream, what are upstream interventions that we know that are evidence based, that we can implement here in Tucson, that really lead to these upstream solutions that help families move out of poverty.

Jennie Grabel
There are policies around workforce development, early childhood education and access to health care. Several several different policies in this bundle that gave us this beautiful strategic framework for our community to align and in alignment with the city in the county who are huge players right around resourcing and the way that they move in the city and the way that they support families and support our community.

Jennie Grabel
We’re working now with that whole family lens, with the city and the county and looking to branch out. We already have relationships with the with the nonprofit sector. We obviously work very closely with philanthropy, and now we’re looking to build this coalition that brings business, faith, arts and culture into alignment so that we all have we all can identify that we are a part of the solution to build a community that’s truly prosperous for everyone that lives in, in our community.

Jennie Grabel
Because the truth is, we have pockets of high poverty in, in Pima County, and we have pockets of high opportunity. So how can we create a space where every child that’s born in our community has access to the resources that they need to thrive to live out their dreams? And every parent is supported in the same way, to live out their dreams and to build the future that they want for their family.

Tom Heath
So the mission of social venture partners, you’re still, I mean, it’s almost like a two pronged approach at this point, right? You’ve got social venture partners, but now you’ve what I’ve dubbed is the, the Star Wars character, the CC ÂŁ0.03 CC CC yeah, yeah, the coalition for prosperity. Yeah. That that that’s become a project of SVP or is it a is it a are you changing the direction of.

Anne Miskey
It’s really going to be our main area of focus. But there’s a lot of work that goes around that around just capacity building education. But it’s all going to be focused on this multi-sector, multi-generational focus of of work that we’re going to be doing. And I think the thing that’s so exciting about this work is that a couple of things.

Anne Miskey
One, we’re we’re basing a lot of the work on what we call the voice of lived experience. The nonprofit world was actually way behind the business sector in terms of how it worked. So, for example, if you’re an entrepreneur and you’re starting a new business or say you’re launching a new product, what is the first thing you do?

Anne Miskey
You go to your potential customers and you say, do you want this? Do you need this? Or you’re going to buy this? The not for profit world didn’t do that with their clients or consumers. They just decided what was best for them. And we recognized that we actually have to listen to people who are living in poverty, who are dealing with these things day to day to understand what are the barriers you face, what kind of programs or interventions are actually going to be helpful.

Anne Miskey
So part of this is we’re expanding our work with listening to the people who are living these issues. The other piece of this, which really excites me from a systems approach, is it’s not. I was saying to Jennie earlier, it’s not a zero sum game. It’s not like, what can you do for us? It’s, hey, if we work together, what benefits our clients is also going to benefit you.

Anne Miskey
It’s a win win situation. If we build more prosperity in Tucson, if we reduce poverty, that’s going to help businesses. They’re going to have more consumers. They’re going to have more employees that are trained, you know, children who get good education. So this work that we’re doing is really comprehensive to say, let’s build a strong, prosperous community and listen to all the people that are affected.

Anne Miskey
And how can we really create opportunities to work together and make real change, long term change happen.

Tom Heath
So that you become like the hub of the wheel and the spokes?

Anne Miskey
Yeah, exactly.

Tom Heath
So because you get the nonprofits there, there’s still organizations and agencies doing the work on the ground. You’re guiding, providing resources and connecting them to opportunity and helping to create policies or hopefully influence policies that are favorable to what they’re trying to do.

Anne Miskey
Exactly. And again, how do we leverage what’s happening? Because we have all of these really great agencies doing amazing work, but they may be doing it in isolation. And the other thing that we are seeing, and right now, at a time when a lot of nonprofits are losing funding because of federal, all the things happening at the federal government organizations are having to really go, should I be doing that.

Anne Miskey
This is my strength over here. But there’s another organization over there that actually does that thing. So by bringing people to work together we can help support and leverage the work that’s being done to not to duplicate, but to say this is you’re really, really good at this. I’m going to actually get my clients to use you, and I’m doing this other thing over here.

Anne Miskey
So the more we can collaborate, it also creates efficiencies in the system. Yeah. Which is.

Tom Heath
Important. You become like a transition agency as well, helping move the necessary, components from one organization to another or the, the clients from, from one level to another.

Anne Miskey
Yeah, exactly. We just find that when you actually work together and talk together, and unfortunately, the not for profit sector is so often so strapped for resources and time that they just keep doing the great work that they’re doing, but really in silos.

Tom Heath
Well, then they end up asking the same people for the same money. That’s right. And a group like yours and can can get that sort of organized a little bit and to disperse it where it needs to be for those programs.

Anne Miskey
We actually have what we call an innovation fund, where we fund nonprofit to work together and come up with ideas together. And it’s been one of the most successful, I think, things that we’ve done and the stuff that grows out of it, when you give people the resources to work together, it truly is deep impact kind of work.

Tom Heath
So just changing gears just a little bit, then you’ve got you’ve got different partners and coalition members and agencies. How do people connect with you? Like if they’re if they’re a partner, they it’s not just about money. It’s also about skills. Right? I mean, you can you can have an experiential, offering to, to provide.

Anne Miskey
100%. So, partnership is really open to anybody in the community, anybody who has experienced some resources and wants to have really deep understanding of the community and also deep impact. So we have a lot of people who were businesspeople, lawyers, doctors, engineers, I.T professionals, and they can come in and we can match them with the nonprofit or with more than one nonprofit and say you need help with us, okay.

Anne Miskey
We can connect you with somebody who can offer that to you pro-bono. So you’re not spending your budget on upgrading your website. You’re actually spending your money focused on your clients and supporting them. So that’s a lot of the work that our partners do as we move into this broader work. Our partners are going to be helping agencies more work together and collaborate.

Anne Miskey
And also look at, you know what, maybe I have to do some cuts because my funding is down. So we’ve got experts who can help people go in and say, okay, how do you do that in the best way possible?

Tom Heath
And then are there are you how do you select the agencies that you work with, or is there an application process or do you go out and find them? They can find you?

Jennie Grabel
Yeah. So the eight agencies that we’ve currently been working with through the two Jen collaboration came in through an application process, and we have been working with them for about three years with the Community Coalition for prosperity. We’re really looking to expand, and we’ve done a lot of informational sessions, and we have interest from, you know, 40 different nonprofits that are really interested in aligning with this work.

Jennie Grabel
The beauty of it is that it’s about alignment. It’s not about recreation. I mean, there’s great innovation that can come from sitting in a room and having a conversation and recognizing what are the connections that we have here programmatically, individually, how can we refer clients across one another? That’s a great opportunity, right? But oftentimes just bringing people into a room together to spark ideas and creativity, that’s where SVP that’s something that we’re really good at.

Jennie Grabel
We’re really good at creating spaces that are open. This is something that Brittany is brilliant at with the fast pitch programs, like creating spaces where you’re bringing community together with a common purpose, and you’re open to new ideas that are being fleshed out and decided upon. And we have this roadmap with the Prosperity Initiative that really looks at specific interventions that have really worked, that are evidence based, that we can use to draw from.

Jennie Grabel
So we’re again, we’re conveners, we are connectors, we are relationship builders. We’re all about the reality that change happens at the speed of trust. And you mentioned earlier, Tom, when we when we first sat down, you know, this is a community that really cares. There are beautiful things happening in every corner of this county, in this city. What we get to do through the Community Coalition for prosperity is bring all of that good work together and create some alignment so that we can all be working in concert, and especially during a time when, as and mentioned, our nonprofits are feeling sort of the, the, the, the, you know, national changes that are the shifts that

Jennie Grabel
are happening. There’s opportunity there, right? When we feel a little unsteady in certain places we want to ground. And the best way to ground is to hold somebody’s hand and come together and figure out, what are we doing that, that, that what what might be we replicating that we can, you know, streamline. What are where are the gaps?

Jennie Grabel
What what are the missing pieces? That’s where our innovation fund has been really effective. It’s like, what are the things that could happen if we were because we’re sitting down and having this conversation. So, you know, there there are big broad things that we’re going to be doing. We’re going to be focusing on very specific on some systems change efforts, but it’s all about bringing the community in alignment and creating an awareness and, an energy that’s really about pushing for a community that is prosperous for everyone and living within it.

Tom Heath
And I would imagine that as you’re talking about policies, you’re looking at elected officials and others that need to make change. So that means as a community, we need to be informed of what you’re doing so that we can advocate when it’s necessary, both shaking your head. So I think I hit on something positive there.

Anne Miskey
Yeah, absolutely. Communication is key to this because this really is a community wide effort. And so the more who understand about it, and who want to be involved in it, the better. We also know when we’re looking at big issues like poverty, homelessness, all of those things. We know that there are all sorts of myths and misperceptions out there about the issues and why people are experiencing those things.

Anne Miskey
So part of the communication is also around explaining to people, why is this happening in your community? What is what are the causes? Because sadly, what we see and we see this all over the country is policies are created and interventions are created based, based on the myth, not on the reality, not on the evidence. So then it doesn’t work and people go, well, we put all this money to it.

Anne Miskey
It’s like, well, because you’re actually putting your money to the wrong thing.

Tom Heath
It’s a it’s a solution.

Anne Miskey
For a problem. Looking for it. Yeah, yeah. Thank you.

Tom Heath
So this is how I think we fix it. This is everybody’s on board with that. So we’ll work to fix it even though it’s not going to fix it.

Anne Miskey
Right.

Tom Heath
And hard to believe we’re running out of time. This has been fascinating. So a couple quick things. One, we’re going to have to get you back because this there’s we just scratched the surface here. And two how do people stay in communication or is it a website? How do people follow you?

Anne Miskey
Yes, absolutely. You can go to our website SVP tucson.org. There’s information there. There’s information about us, but also about the community coalition for prosperity. You can sign up. We have a newsletter that’s going out now, and we’re kind of in deep planning mode this summer. But starting the fall, we’re going to be launching some things. And again, we would love to have people who are interested in being involved and truly making a difference in the community.

Jennie Grabel
I think it’s really important to note, too, that this is not this is not a situation we’ve gotten into overnight, and nor is it a it, nor is there an overnight solution. So we talk a lot about cathedral building. What do we want for the children living in this community 30 years from now? And how are we setting the foundation?

Jennie Grabel
How are we pouring the concrete for the cathedral that will one day be a space where every child in our community has equal opportunity, where the folks, you know, living in the South have the same opportunity as the folks living in the North or the East, in the West, or however we want to define that. But how it’s about coming together as a community, making a choice, creating this partnership, creating the future that we want for the children of in our community, in the families, in our community.

Jennie Grabel
So we’re just getting started. As an mentioned, we really, truly are internally, foundationally setting our structures and our systems up so that we can do this effectively. But again, we’re building a cathedral and hoping to do this work for for a long, long time because we know it will take quite a bit of work.

Tom Heath
And, Jennie, I appreciate your time. I appreciate your thoughtfulness and your commitment to this community. Welcome to Tucson. And thank you. I look forward to hearing more about all this. Thanks.

Anne Miskey
Wonderful. Thank you. Tom, this is great to be here.

Tom Heath
And Miss Jennie Graybill of Social Venture Partners, Tucson, very gracious with their time as, they are very involved with, many projects. So I appreciate them. Obviously coming into the studio. Don’t go anywhere. Words and work is coming up in just a few minutes with Ted Brazil Ski. He interviews writers and others from the labor movement and coming up on life along the streetcar, we’ve got, we’ve got our July almost already filled up where we’re getting so far ahead because Amanda is out there booking these interviews for us.

Tom Heath
But we’re going to talk to people in the, the arts world. We’re going to have, a new club in town, a new, athletic club and a new, new sport to our area that’s pretty popular near. We’re going to talk about that, we’ll have information on Tucson’s 250th birthday party and some of the celebrations.

Tom Heath
You’re going to take a look back at mission GAA and all kinds of fun stuff happening in July. So tune in here every Sunday, 11 a.m. Downtown radio. And if you miss it, shame on you. But you can catch it on our website. Life Along the Street car.org audio and video available there for, for your review.

Tom Heath
And we also recommend you check us out on the Instagram and Facebook. We’re pretty proud of the the the what. We’re putting out into the world. And we hope that you like it in and share it, to your friends. That would mean a lot to us. And if you want to reach out or just, suggest some topics or give us some thoughts, contact that life along the street car talk or again, Facebook and Instagram.

Tom Heath
James Ford US is our executive producer. Amanda Mulattos is our associate producer. My name is Tom Heath. I am your host. Each week our opening music is by Ryan Hood as they let us use Dillinger Days. So kind of them. And today, we are going to close, today’s show with a song called Rising Out of Poverty.

Tom Heath
Rising out of poverty. It’s from 2016. The artist is Paolo Maldini. Dub, have a great week and tune in next Sunday for more life along the street.

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